{"id":27094,"date":"2024-08-30T14:43:50","date_gmt":"2024-08-30T14:43:50","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/z6frttwr.ordoiuris.io\/aktualnosc\/when-liberals-stop-believing-in-democracy-a-video-interview-with-polish-journalist-pawel-lisicki\/"},"modified":"2025-08-18T12:54:17","modified_gmt":"2025-08-18T10:54:17","slug":"when-liberals-stop-believing-in-democracy-a-video-interview-with-polish-journalist-pawel-lisicki","status":"publish","type":"informacje","link":"https:\/\/ordoiuris.pl\/en\/press-newsdesk\/when-liberals-stop-believing-in-democracy-a-video-interview-with-polish-journalist-pawel-lisicki\/","title":{"rendered":"When liberals stop believing in democracy \u2013 A video interview with Polish journalist Pawe\u0142 Lisicki"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"text-align-justify\" style=\"margin: 0cm;\"><span style=\"font-size:12pt\"><span style=\"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif\"><b><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif\">Polish journalist and essayist Pawe\u0142 Lisicki, editor-in-chief of the weekly <i>Do Rzeczy<\/i>, describes the current disturbing evolution of Western liberalism and explains the reasons why classical liberalism, based on individual freedom and limited state interference in the personal lives of citizens, is no longer working. This applies to Poland, as it does to the rest of the Western world, as seen in the increasingly vicious attacks on conservatives by the left-liberal camp. An extreme expression of this across the Atlantic was the recent assassination attempt on Donald Trump.<\/span><\/b><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"text-align-justify\" style=\"margin: 0cm;\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"text-align-justify\" style=\"margin: 0cm;\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin:0cm\"><span style=\"font-size:12pt\"><span style=\"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif\"><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif\">\u201cFreedom was only possible in a certain tradition, specifically in the Western tradition, the Christian tradition, a tradition in which there were certain kinds of values considered inviolable,\u201d Lisicki says.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin:0cm\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin:0cm\"><span style=\"font-size:12pt\"><span style=\"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif\"><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif\">In an atmosphere of total freedom, in which we do not recognize common moral principles, the strong begin to have power. This started in the 1950\u2019s and -60\u2019s in the United States, and the trend then penetrated Europe. Today\u2019s so-called left-wing liberalism, attempting to redefine society, rejects the law of nature. It results in a government that theoretically preaches freedom, but in reality becomes increasingly despotic,\u201d Lisicki says, also recalling the considerable influence of cultural Marxism on today\u2019s adherents of liberalism.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin:0cm\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin:0cm\"><span style=\"font-size:12pt\"><span style=\"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif\"><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif\">\u201cThe liberal state, which arose and distinguished itself by being a state of freedom, is increasingly turning into a state of dictatorship and tyranny, because each time it interferes with what is natural, it must force the general citizenry to comply with these new decisions. And it can only do this by increasing its control over these citizens.\u201d<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin:0cm\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin:0cm\"><span style=\"font-size:12pt\"><span style=\"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif\"><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif\">This is why the concept of \u201cilliberal democracy\u201d introduced by Hungary\u2019s Viktor Orb\u00e1n is today becoming the <i>freedom option<\/i>. The editor-in-chief of <i>Do Rzeczy<\/i> cites the example of Hungary\u2019s Child Protection Act, which bans LGBT propaganda aimed at minors in (among others) schools, thus preserving the freedom of parents to educate their children according to their principles and beliefs.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin:0cm\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin:0cm\"><span style=\"font-size:12pt\"><span style=\"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif\"><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif\">Olivier Bault, Director of Communications at the Ordo Iuris Institute, conducted the interview.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin:0cm\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" allowfullscreen=\"\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"315\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/jRoaanPDsBg?si=70jwCdozT1zNZHdX\" title=\"YouTube video player\" width=\"560\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin:0cm\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Polish journalist and essayist Pawe\u0142 Lisicki, editor-in-chief of the weekly Do Rzeczy, describes the current disturbing evolution of Western liberalism and explains the reasons why classical liberalism, based on individual freedom and limited state interference in the personal lives of citizens, is no longer working. 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