{"id":27097,"date":"2024-09-10T14:52:19","date_gmt":"2024-09-10T14:52:19","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/z6frttwr.ordoiuris.io\/aktualnosc\/whats-next-for-the-european-union-the-ordo-iuris-panel-discussion-during-the-economic-forum-in-karpacz-poland\/"},"modified":"2025-08-18T12:20:24","modified_gmt":"2025-08-18T10:20:24","slug":"whats-next-for-the-european-union-the-ordo-iuris-panel-discussion-during-the-economic-forum-in-karpacz-poland","status":"publish","type":"informacje","link":"https:\/\/ordoiuris.pl\/en\/press-newsdesk\/whats-next-for-the-european-union-the-ordo-iuris-panel-discussion-during-the-economic-forum-in-karpacz-poland\/","title":{"rendered":"What\u2019s next for the European Union? The Ordo Iuris panel discussion during the Economic Forum in Karpacz, Poland"},"content":{"rendered":"

\u00b7 The XXXIIIth Economic Forum took place last week in Karpacz. It is often dubbed the Davos of Central Europe.<\/b><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

\u00b7 One of the discussion panels was organized by the Ordo Iuris Institute.<\/b><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

\u00b7 The debate was entitled \u201cEmpire of Europe or Europe of Nations: What Direction Should the Reform of the EU Treaties Take?\u201d<\/b><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

\u00b7 The event was attended by experts, including politicians, from Poland, Hungary, Belgium, and Spain.<\/b><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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The discussion focused on the ongoing process of reforming the European Union\u2019s treaties. The model for changing the EU\u2019s system was voted on by the European Parliament in November 2023. It assumes the transfer, in whole or in part, of ten areas of sovereignty that currently belong to the nation-states: climate policy, defense, the protection of the Union\u2019s external borders, education, health, family law, and the regulation of cross-border infrastructure and industry. Additionally, there would be no requirement for subsequent reforms to be ratified by all the member states, and the interpretation of EU law by the EU Court of Justice would be made supreme even over the constitutions of the individual member states. What this means is that even the extremely radical changes to the treaties advocated by the European Parliament would only be the beginning of the process of creating a European superstate. An entire report by the Ordo Iuris Institute<\/a> was devoted to this problem.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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The panel discussion held at the Karpacz Forum<\/a> was led by Jerzy Kwa\u015bniewski, the President of the Ordo Iuris Institute for Legal Culture. He pointed out that there is currently scant interest in treaty reform in the EU countries. As he emphasized:<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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\u201cWe are undergoing the deepest reform of our constitutional system in the European Union [\u2026] Just imagine that the Congress and Senate of the United States had already accepted 267 amendments to the US Constitution. Nobody cares. Nobody speaks about it. And it is not a hot topic in the sphere of public opinion. That\u2019s how we feel in Europe. The fact that 267 amendments to the European treaties have been accepted by the European Parliament according to the provisions of the Lisbon Treaty for the first time, and were already accepted last year by the Council, is not a matter of importance for most of European citizens.\u201d<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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For his part, former Speaker of the Sejm and former MEP Marek Jurek stressed that plans to centralize Europe go back a long way. He noted:<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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\u201cThere is a common view that European integration was a very good, modest, purely economic project which later developed a very bad side. In fact, however, if we look back at history \u2013 not to the Treaty of Rome, but two years earlier, to the projects of the European Political Community and the European Defense Community \u2013 they more or less went to the point where we are at today. That is, to transcend, to dominate, and to create institutions that will hold supremacy over the national states.\u201d<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

He also mentioned a certain naivet\u00e9 that prevailed among Poles when Poland joined the European Union in 2004. On the other hand, he also pointed out that the subsequent crises which were triggered or aggravated by the actions of either the Union or its strongest members, such as those concerning illegal immigration, might have eroded this initial enthusiasm.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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In turn, Prof. David Engels, a Belgian historian, pointed out the European Union\u2019s weakness in the face of external threats, while at the same time limiting the sovereignty of its member countries. As he noted:<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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\u201cThe European Union [\u2026] is becoming more and more oppressive toward the nation-states and toward every single issue. When it comes to the outside world, when it comes to defending European interests against Russia, against China, against Muslim mass migration, against all that, the European Union is non-existent. [\u2026] It is important to work together, but not on oppressing a single nation-state, its family politics, its identity politics, or what teach at school – that kind of thing.\u201d<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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He added that \u201cthe main problem with today\u2019s European movement is not even the institutions as they are, but it is rather the ideology that leads them. It\u2019s an ideology that is not a patriotic European one, but one which is a universalist, hedonistic, materialistic, absolutely atheistic ideology that exploits these institutions.\u201d<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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Meanwhile, Polish MP Przemyslaw Wipler spoke about the problem of immigration. In his opinion, this issue may be of great importance when it comes to shaping the political scene in Poland. He stressed:<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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\u201cThe fact that the Migration Pact will be implemented in 2026 will be a huge shock for the people who currently rule Poland. If it was to be implemented next year, I think Donald Tusk would do everything to veto it, especially if it were to be adopted by the EU before the presidential elections. [\u2026] If the migration package is implemented in 2026, if it really starts, in my view it will have a very significant impact on the election results in the 2027 parliamentary elections\u2026\u201d<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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Also participating in the debate was Professor Ricardo Ruiz de la Serna, an attorney and the head of research and training at the Disenso think tank in Spain. He pointed out the importance of the EU\u2019s environmental policy and how it affects social processes:<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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\u201cThe most violent [topic in the public debate] has to do with the green transition, or the green thing, let\u2019s say, because it\u2019s not just a transition. There is a whole set of values behind it concerning the role of human beings, the relationship between human beings and nature, and the relationship between economic development and nature. I mean, it\u2019s more complicated than just technology and economics. There is a model for society behind it…\u201d<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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Peter T\u00f6rcsi, a lawyer and writer from Hungary who is also the Chief Operations Officer of the Center for Fundamental Rights, pointed out the need to return to Europe\u2019s Christian heritage:<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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\u201cI think what we should build upon to create Europe\u2019s future is cultural Christianity, because it is accepted even by those who claim to be atheists. Their moral obligation to refrain from doing certain things is rooted in Christianity, not in their penal codes and legal system.\u201d<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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Ricardo Ruiz de la Serna in turn pointed out at the end that “behind this proposal for reforms, there is a model of a society that opposes the fundamentals, the very basics of our civilization. It is a 25-century-old civilization whose roots are in Greece, Rome, and Jerusalem \u2013 the Bible. A civilization that is the heir of Rome, of Greece, of Christianity, and in the Spanish and Polish cases, the Catholic Church. And there is a historical process. The question is: is there anything in that process that is worth preserving? Is there something in that historical process that we value, that we hold dear, that we love? And against all the projects of the elites, when it comes to popular culture, when it comes to daily life, when it comes to heroes, when it comes to sport teams, when it comes to everything that we\u2019ve identified with \u2013 all of that is national. It\u2019s Polish, it\u2019s Spanish, it\u2019s French, it\u2019s Italian, it\u2019s Greek, and at the same time it is European. That\u2019s the core of the issue. There is not a contradiction between national identities and the European identity. There will not be a European identity without European nations.\u201d<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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MP Przemyslaw Wipler stated that he does not believe that it is through the European Parliament that the Union can be put on the right track, however:<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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\u201cI think that the key role here will be played in particular by the member states and by using their right of veto in a brave way, whenever it is necessary.\u201d<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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This is because in order for the new treaties to be adopted, they will need to be ratified by each member state. In the opinion of the participants in this debate that was organized by the Ordo Iuris Institute in Karpacz, the treaties are indeed worth amending, since one of the biggest problems in the European Union today is that there is no effective mechanism in place to verify compliance with those laws which are enacted by EU institutions with the treaties, and they frequently go beyond what the EU is mandated to do. It is therefore certainly necessary to restore and strengthen the principle of subsidiarity.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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Pictures by courtesy of Hungary’s Center for Fundamental Rights.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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